Hi, y’all!
First things first — did everyone have a good Labor Day weekend? I did. I hung out with my family, I lay out by the pool at my uncle’s house, I saw three really good movies (The One I Love, If I Stay, and Begin Again), and I spent almost all of today shopping with my sister. It was a good holiday weekend. And I have to admit that, at first, I didn’t feel bad about taking a weekend off from Big Brother because I naturally assumed that nothing worth talking about would be happening in the house. I figured I’d just come back and tell you who won the veto and all that good stuff and that would be it.
Instead, over this weekend, something happened in the house that I have to comment on. And I know that y’all know exactly what I’m talking about. I’m talking about what Frankie said about Victoria. However, it’s not just what he said. Suggesting that Caleb and Derrick should get Victoria drunk and then rape her (“take both of her virginities,” as Frankie put it) was disgusting. If he had just said that, I would already hate Frankie and be saying that he needs to be sent out of the house. It was also the way that he said it; the palpable joy he took out of saying it and then “acting” it out.
It’s also the fact that Caleb responded by laughing and egging Frankie on. It’s the fact that Derrick — an agent of law enforcement — didn’t seem to have any issue with what Frankie said, beyond the fact that it might upset a few people watching the live feeds. Cody was clearly uncomfortable with what Frankie said but he didn’t leave the room. He didn’t leave the conversation. And then there’s Christine, whose only concern seemed to be that she didn’t want any of the guys “flirting” with Victoria.
Let me tell you something. If I had been in that room and Frankie had said that about another female houseguest — regardless of what I might think about that houseguest personally — I probably would have slapped Frankie. That’s the least of what he deserves.
Here’s the thing — we all know that we’re going to hear houseguests say stupid things. When you’re on camera 24 hours a day and you’re competing for $50,000, tempers are going to flare and people are going to get stressed and people are going to say things that they shouldn’t. But there is simply no excuse for what Frankie said, just as there was no excuse for the racist, homophobic, and sexist comments that were made last season.
And just as the Big Brother producers went out of their way to rightly condemn people like Aaryn last year, they now need to condemn Frankie’s comments. Frankie needs to be asked about them. Frankie needs to explain himself.
And most importantly, Frankie needs to leave the house. It’s bad enough that this season has primarily been used to promote Frankie’s sister. It’s bad enough that Frankie — much like Amanda until she had a similar meltdown last year — has obviously been protected by production. Frankie’s comments went over the line and it doesn’t matter who his sister is or how much CBS wants to be in the Ariana Grande business, Frankie needs to go.
Honestly, if Frankie — who is already quite wealthy, along with being a hateful misogynist — wins this season, it’ll be a disaster. Myself, I’m at the point where the only reason I continue to watch Frankie is because I made a commitment to watch and write about the season, regardless of how much I dislike the people in the house.
Frankie needs to go. And he needs to go before Victoria.
As for what else has been going on in the house:
Christine won the veto. Up until late last night, it appeared that Caleb was going to backdoor Frankie this week but no, he wimped out. Instead, he has nominated Victoria. So, on Thursday, either Nicole or Victoria will leave the house. It’ll probably be Nicole because Derrick will want to keep Victoria around.
However, Thursday will also be a double eviction. Hopefully, the 2nd person to leave will be Frankie. It could happen. Even beyond what he said about Victoria, Frankie has been getting more and more arrogant inside the house. Ever since he told everyone that Ariana is his sister, Frankie has literally decided that he’s the king of the house. (And why not? Much like Amanda last season, he knows that he’s a production favorite.)
So, here’s hoping.
But honestly, if Frankie makes it to the final two and wins, I might have to a seriously reconsider my loyalty to this show.
Lisa Marie
Sooner than later… Please!
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I hope CBS calls Frankie out and asks for an explanation of his comment especially since he loves the spotlight to always be on him. I would love to watch him squirm on live TV. Unfortunately, I don’t think CBS will do anything. I would think they would have already said something to him in the DR but that doesn’t appear to be the case. The fact that no other houseguest called him on his comment speaks volumes to me of what they are really like. No backbones for any of them. Derrick of all people should have said something since he is law enforcement and has a daughter. I think Nicole might have said something if she were there but she wasn’t.
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Ahh, so glad to see you Lisa! Thank you!
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Thanks Lisa! ….. See you soon…. ……..
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Bobo – I just got up from a nap and read your blog. So sorry, the loss of a friend is a big deal. I know we all agree that this season of BB is a great disappointment. That being said, I still have to watch. You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. BB is my guilty pleasure. I will be watching Wed, along with all of you. {{{HUGS}}}
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I think Frankie should not only leave the BB house, he should not go to the jury house either. I can’t even imagine how he would act there. I would not want to risk his being there with decent people. Send him straight home.. “Do not pass go, do not collect the $200.00, just Go!! ” IMHO.
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Glad you had fun on your weekend from BB, LM, we missed you.
And yes, Frankie needs to go; not to the jury house but just go as in being expelled. Sadly, no matter how awful a HG has behaved, nobody has been expelled from the BB house since season 2 when that one guy held a knife to a girl’s throat and said he was just kidding. They now use only plastic knives that hardly cut anything, certainly won’t hurt another person.
By staying silent on this issue, CBS is condoning this behavior. I do believe Grodner thinks it is “cute” in some weird fashion. There is nothing cute or funny about telling one HG he hopes she kills herself (Frankie said this to Jocasta weeks ago) and then claiming to joke about attempting to incite others to commit sexual assault. I would say Frankie is a sick little puppy that needs to be put down, but that is just an insult to sick little puppies.
I’m done watching this freak show. I’ll stay on the blogs and read what happens, hoping for the best but with Victoria being nominated in Crustine’s place, I have little hope. I’m also done with all other CBS programming. The negative publicity that results from such HG behavior (face it if all the HGs were good stable people, there would be no TMZ or other articles) might be good for BB–at least Grodner thinks it is. It is not, however, good for CBS as a whole. That they are even associated with a show that endorses such behavior is a net negative. “CBS Cares” until it has something to do with vile, despicable behavior on one of their most watched shows.
Ok, this is my second rant in less than 10 minutes. I’m done.
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THANK YOU Lisa Marie
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Oh my gooness— gu-ness — what a mess!
Phrankie (stein) is a PHONY!!!!
and ever so very MEAN-spirited (Ariana “who?” should have to pay for all of the other house guests therapy.
The winner should get $1 million and all of the others $500K and America’s favorite should get $2 million.
I think Derrick deserves to win. He has been thoughtful and kind to every nominee and he does it in a sincere way.
“Let (s)he who merits The Palm bear it”
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I agree Frankie needs to leave and not go to jury. He also should not get the money from ta. Give ends it to charity and not the one that Frankie claims to be a part of either due to he would think he has won something. Caleb is such a wimp. If Frankie ends up in the final two then I would really have to think long and hard about if I want to watch bb wver again. I have missed a show since day 1 either, this is my one and only guilty pleasure. May have to find another guilty pleasure.
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Oh, I’m still stewing over Frankie and how he bashed Donny to the cameras during his snit after Julie reported “by an overwhelming margin, NO APPLE PIE FOR YOU”
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------How stooooooopid are these people to not ask/confront about the secret code?
Lawd have mercy
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Lisa Marie – you said what needed to be said and you said it well. I am in total agreement with you. Frankie has been a problem from the beginning – (a phony)
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I may quit watching BB altogether because I think it has pretty much sucked since the start of season 9. I won’t quit on CBS since several of my favs are on that network, such as Big Bang Theory, Survivor, Amazing Race and that’s about it as far as I can remember.
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I see no surprise of Frankie saying that, he has no respect for others and has a HUGE ego. As said above he should just leave the show with nothing. His respect for his sister is nil as they associate her with him, as she mention it in the People magazine that he was on Big Brother. He should be sent home no jury house, no TA money. Derrick has lost my respect for not speaking up and saying he was perhaps going a bit to far. Thanks LM.
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Lisa, so happy you had such a great weekend. Thanks for the great update and you nailed it. Frankie should be gone! I said everything I have to say about that scourge of a dispicable, disgusting, obnoxious, repugnant, obscene excuse for a human being.
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HEY PRODUCER: You need to remove Frankie from the house for that remark.. I want to see Christine go next.
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If CBS does not reprimand Frankie Thurs. I will give up watching a show that I’ve enjoyed ever since it first aired. I’ve enjoyed the drama brought on by hgs evicting each other. What I don’t enjoy is someone that is so revolting as Frankie and doesn’t get so much as a handslap. That to me enough reason to boycott BB. I am relying on the powers that be to address this issue Thurs. I love this blog and the people on it. And kudos to LM for making it possible for us to express our opinions.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you about Frankie. I think so much less of Derrick now, being a police officer and tolerating and participating in that conversation. Christine should absolutely be ashamed of herself (ha!) since as a woman who should abhor someone even “joking” about rape remained silent. Shame on all of them and shame on Julie Chen and CBS for not addressing it. I have to say, though, I don’t understand Victoria’s mother wanting an apology from Frankie’s sister and mother (according to TMZ). ??? I wish therre were some way we could put pressure on cbs to kick Frankie out. I just pray he doesn’t win and the audience boos him when he walks out of the door. And what is with all of the men cuddling with him. What is happening to our men????
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Hi everyone, and big Thanks to Lisa Marie,
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I stopped watching BB last week with all the bs going around, but like I said Thanks to LM I read her blog and all of you guys comments and get a complete idea of whats happing. On the last blog someone had a link to CBS for complaining so I did. I was sexually harassed and let me tell you it never leaves you. If I want to be real honest (why not) I was raped at the tender age of 18. Let me tell you that really screwed me up for many many years. I’m over 50 now, if you were wondering. But anyway, he needs to go. Out of the house. All of them should have to go to a sexual harassment class, & do volunteer work at a rape crises center. IMHO Sorry for ranting, its still a touchy subject for me. But again Thank you LM and everyone else
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I just read my comment and boy do I sound like a lunatic.. Sorry I’m really not..
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The Frankie situation is sad and unerving and totally uncalled for as far as I’ve HEARD, but can anyone tell me the day/time/cam# so I can make my own honest opinion? This totally disgusts me so far, I would like to see for myself before I make final judgement. TYA.
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Totally support your view Lisa Marie as well as other bloggers. This show used to be my summer addiction, however in the past few years it has steadily disappointed to the extent that I now miss the shows and don’t care to watch. I read these blogs and thought for a moment that it would start to get interesting with Frankie being back doored, but believe that Production talked Caleb out of that so again he took the easy predictable route and nominated Victoria. No wonder the ratings are dropping, guess they will recruit even more outrageous people for next year. Most likely I will not watch for the first time in 16 seasons and now prefer the Canadian version (which I thought would never happen).
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Kerry, you don’t sound like a lunatic whatsoever. Made perfect sense to me and I’m sure others on this blog too.
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No Kerry – you sound just fine and thanks for sharing. The behavior shown by HG’s last year and again this year is inexcusable.
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Kerry – No apology necessary. As a lay counselor at our church. I have listened to many stories of women. It’s not something you can take off like a coat. Praying for you sweetheart. BB has gone over the line and it. needs to address. {{{HUGS}}}
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Kerry, no way do you sound like a lunatic! God bless you for your honesty. I Don’t blame you for feeling the impact of what happened in the BB house. It has outraged many people here as you can see by the blogs.
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Greetings everyone. If you truly want to make an impactful reaction to the disgusting behavor, write to the companies that buy advertising space on BB. It would seem that last year and again this year the show has gone to blazes. (I was going to say dogs but not fair to dogs).
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…………….. My Spot!………….
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My heart goes out to you, Bob. Loss is always hard on those left behind.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Kerry, you are a hero to have endured such a horrific thing. You have reclaimed yourself very well.
LM – Thank you so much. I don’t know what we’d do without you.
Wouldn’t you think after 15 seasons, a past houseguest would have spilled the beans about what production says or doesn’t say in the Diary Room? Maybe those who win money have to sign a nondisclosure, but one of the evicted who didn’t win anything must had spilled some beans somewhere.
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why do my posts keep vanishing?? Jolee did you see one that started with Thanks Jolee? cuz I can’t find it now. was posted earlier.
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ok. maybe I posted it on the previous page. lol. I don’t know. just such frustration and waiting for Production to do SOMETHING about Frankie but no luck.
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OMG Thank you all so very much. I don’t know what got over me, for putting my life in b/w for everyone to read, but thanks for not thinking I sounded like a lune.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Starfish-Finch-Jeanne-Jolee-Two I really appreciate your kindness. I never met you guys but I love your hearts. Its late so I need to get some rest…
Have a great night
Kerry
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Frankie has to go he has no right to talk like that and as for Derrick you can’t expect him to do anything because if he does the producers will be all over him . Which us what they should do to Frznkie kick him out of the house
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thanks lisa lou – glad ur back and had fun with ur fam
FRANKSTER HAS TO GO PLEASE
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Two things. I don’t have a live feed that I pay extra for, but I don’t think Frankie is being fake. He’s just showing who he really is now. It takes time to feel comfortable to show who you are…and maybe the ‘Team America’ thing, in his eyes, gave him a pass to his behavior. He needs to get a dose of reality, and told, because of a pending lawsuit, CBS has no recourse but to pull him from the show. Victoria family should demand it. He should be called to the DR, then minutes later, all the house-guests called and told that his language of assault sexually on one of the house-guests overstepped boundaries, and the families, whose of the ‘house-guest’, threatened a lawsuit. Let the ones that are there be forced to deal with how they treated and contributed to this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------As far as Derrick, I’ve gotten caught up in talk that wasn’t very mature, and laughed in a disrespectful way, even though there was no reality in those actions that would be taken…and I felt bad for my part. In Derrick defense, from what others have said, he did try to calm down the perspective of being a father, he just did it in a way that didn’t call it out in a direct way. I think we can even see he has tried to be even MORE protection to Victoria. He has been the FIRST to try and calm her down, through her rants, her whining, her talking about others…but she is her own worse enemy. She is not meant for this game. She shows her emotions on her sleeve…and if she was a real competitor, she would have been gone a while ago with all the other things she does.
No one is perfect, and with the beers flowing, wine flowing and everything else CBS is a major part of why this happened, and needs to be held responsible more…but what has been their response? When Cody was drunk…they dared him to drink even more by supplying even more beers and wine.
There has to be actions taken…I’m just not sure if it will be CBS that takes that step…it might be the viewership and posts, like we have put up, that forces their hand.
If I didn’t have a dvr…I would quit watching the 15 minutes, or so of actual entertainment, through fast forward (thank God!)…but that is also wearing thin with what is left in the house in BB16. personally, I’m pulling for Derrick. Having had friends that have died, as police officers, he puts his life on the line, many times over than I ever have. This is certainly not a frugal reason to win money that will help his family, that will face life and death a heck of a lot more than most of us do…for a paycheck.
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PLEASE REALIZE THAT FRANKIE IS A PRODUCTION FAVORITE. I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF CALEB WAS ENCOURAGE BY THE BB PRODUCTION TEAM NOT TO PUT FRANKIE UP AS A REPLACEMENT.
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For those of us with l/f’s, it does state ‘See what we can’t show you on TV’. That’s all fine and dandy, but what about the times things are being discussed and production doesn’t want us to hear, so we get to see fish? Well….what happened when all the ‘RAPE’ talk was going on? To me, production should have put the fish up on the screen as soon as that trash talk started. Its as if they wanted that to get out, to cause chaos among all gthe viewers. I believe they thrive on this stuff! I have to agree with you all….send Frankie home!! He needs to pay for his remarks.
It looks like Nicole will be sent home this week. I have to stick with Derrick and Caleb as my f2 pick. We really don’t have much to choose from this year. If a girl can dream, then my dream would be to bring Donny back in via Pandora’s Box. That would lift the spirits of all the viewers.
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Thanks for the updates LM. Why am I not surprised at Crustine’s feelings. As far as Derrick I agree that he is not a fool and knows there is little he can do. Glad to hear he is more protective of Victoria even though I don’t like her nor do I think she should be there.
Bob, sorry to hear of your loss.
I think production should boot him out but they won’t. Ariana, the Disney princess should be ashamed of him.
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Wow. If they don’t call him out on this and that piece of crap stays I am done! I have watched for every season. But that is beyond over the line. What a jerk
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Goodnight bloggers. Tomorrow is another day. Enjoyed all the blogs today. CBS PLEASE take action against Frankie and get back the respect of your viewers. {{{HUGS}}}
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Lisa,
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks for all the great updates. I usually watch BBAD I love the owl and I am a bit behind. I had no idea. Frankie needs to go what a pig. He has to go and I can’t wait for the double eviction on Thur. Good night everyone!!
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Thanks Lisa, OYYYY, If Nicole leaves there will be nobody left to root for, Maybe I will have to start rooting for Victoria. I really hope Derrick is in trouble when he gets home, he should hang his head in shame for laughing it up when frankie was talking about rape. As far as Frankie they always seem to pick the loathesome queens for BB, Have you ever seen a really nice gay guy on the show. Very few nice ones really.
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Thanks, Lisa Marie, for insight & articulation of the current situation. Well said, my friend.
I’ve grown weary of the show; watched it from Season 1, with Chicken George, Eddie, Curtis, Jamie, Josh. This year & last have given gays a black eye with the likes of Andy & Franky. Who remembers Bunky? He was sweet-natured & a gentleman.
There are serious problems with casting. If the problem is Grodner, she needs to go. Give us interesting, polite people of varied ages, geographic locations, occupations & life experiences. What we’ve had this year are self-absorbed, narcissistic, entitled, bratty babies. Enough!
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@LM Thanks, glad you had a good holiday weekend
@KERRY, thanks for opening up. I respect your honesty and your input. You sound very stable to me and yes they should all except for Victoria and Nic attend some awereness class
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------this is no joking matter, that’s really disturbing.
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here’s the link
http://audienceservices.cbs.com/feedback/feedback.htm
scroll to BB under shows , really easy
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About Derrick, no excuse! I don’t think he should be left out of this he represents the law and he was laughing along and adding to the graphic talk. He’s just as disgusting
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So Frankie is media savy.What a fool. Does he not know he is on 24/7? Myself, I never liked him but now I have a good reason.
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I chimed in with my complaint but I don’t think they care. When the ratings go down they’ll care.
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Thanks Silvie for the link, I just left them a rant about them promoting Rape and sexual assault by Frankie and that they are destroying their base viewership watching audience. Everyone should go to Silvie Link:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I don’t want to talk anymore about these punks, they all disgust me and I can’t say anyone but Nicole and Victoria would deserve it after seeing Derrick and the rest of the weak ass so called men stand by and listen to that shot out of that punks mouth.
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Lisa Marie, I’m glad you had a great L.D. wk end……………and everything you said was perfect. at this point if i could, i’d give the money to vic and nic.
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Frankie is a swine
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Silvie,
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks for the link I left my two cents about setting an example for younger viewership, when someone calls for a death or rape of someone, it is very serious. Serious for the person being, in this case, verbally attacked, and the message it sends to others, when NOT addressed as quickly as possible.
I said that the right thing to do is call Frankie to the DR on Thursday before evictions, right as the show comes on, then tell the house-guests, “For reasons we cannot address yet, Frankie has been eliminated from the game. For now that is all you need to know, and because of that, the current nominations will not be evicted and will be participating in the HOH competition. We will address the reasons why later, but for now house-guests, we will keep to the usual update for the viewers.” Or something like that, maybe later in the show towards the end.
This is a serious problem in the world. Women, especially Muslim women, live with this mentality to the point of religious acceptance in this value and harm to even babies. Sharia Law spreads the value of hate, ignorance, sexual crimes, theft and even murder allowed. While BB isn’t that value, they should send a clear message, they will not tolerate that in action or any format calling for a persons harm in the house.
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Frankie should not be the only one blamed. Everyone laughed. Even Cody. Very disheartening. I think they all should be called out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Derrick being a cop surprises me the most.
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@ LM – your post is the first I heard that Christine was in the room at the time. I would have thought that she would have protested in some way. Props to Cody for at least showing his displeasure. The rest are all so afraid they might alienate the others, they just went along. I hope that Derrick was personally offended (good), but wanted to remain one of the guys. (game play).
@Randall – … the rest of the weak ass so called men … ROFL!!!
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@Craig Long
Derrick was guilty by adding a disgusting comment and laughing
I don’t think it’s game play and so wrong
here’s the link
http://audienceservices.cbs.com/feedback/feedback.htm
scroll to BB under shows , really easy
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I stopped watching the show weeks ago. I have NO respect for any of the house guests. The fact that NO ONE said a word about this shows me how horrible they all are in the real world. I do still read the blog to see whats going on but after the past 2 seasons I believe I will only read here and not waste my time anymore with these IDIOTS. I have lost any respect for Derrick I might have had. I wonder how proud his wife & cop friends are for him now after he did not say anything to Frankie about it. It would be nice if he lost his job for it.
@ Kerry I understand how you feel. My step father (43 @ the time) and my step brother (@ 21 @ the time) took turns raping me when I was 7. I am 43 now and still deal with trust issues and night mares. Henry the step father died Christmas of 2012 and the night mares have slowed down.
What made everything worse police and child protective services tried to put me back in the home with them & never filed charges against either of them giving them the chance to make more victims. I hope things are going better for you now.
So I guess I should not be shocked Derrick said nothing. But CBS (who cares) is doing nothing to Frankie for the comments is stupid. Frankie should be ejected from the game and sent home not to jury who knows what he would do to the people in jury as there is not protection of the cameras there.
CBS should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this kind of stuff going on.
BUT seeing as how now his sisters Iphone stuff has been hacked and nude pictures of her are out there shows that family has no class and no clue. Probably why she is so proud of her low life scum of a brother.
As they say “Money cant buy you class” this family shows that.
I would be ashamed to call either of them family.
And another thing if CBS cares maybe they should dump Grodner for allowing this to show they do cares about rape victims and take all the money they have given Frankie to this point and donate it to Rape Victim causes. And Grodners paycheck for the season since he is her favorite – shows how vile she is too.
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Chiarra or what ever her name was in a previous season was ejected for refusing to go to the DR and ignoring production BUT they allow this it is UNCALLED for to allow this. Thank You for think link I have written them and told them what I think. I agree with one poster that Thursday they should remove him from the house and leave the nominees in the house. He NEEDS to go BEFORE anyone else. The ONLY reason he got in there is because of the youtube crap he does and who his sister is. It is AWFUL that a great guy like Donny goes but this THING is allowed to stay. Says a lot about where this show is going. I would have thought after the mess last year they would have chosen the HGs a lot better but I guess they love this kind of publicity. As they say “there is no bad publicity” Well I personally think there is. And to allow this shows how DESPERATE they are to scrape the bottom of the barrel for HGs.
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@Mary Price
Sorry to hear about the trauma you went thru.
These HG’s are just as bad as the racists from last season
Yes I remember the HG who git evicted for eating while she was on slope like that was a big offense
Idiots!!!!
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I feel the same way as this season has been one of the worst!!!!
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@Sylvie, thanks for the link. I put my two cents worth in. I don’t know if it will make a difference but I feel like I need to voice my opinion or I can’t live with myself.
Kerry and Mary Price, my heart goes out to both of you. I have not had to deal with that personally but I know those who have.
Ralph: Excellent script you wrote. I like it and would love to see it happen. But I’m sure it won’t.
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Morning all,
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I just wanted to say (to Mary Price) How sorry I’m for what you had to go through, at the hands of someone who is supposed to protect you. I hope your step father had a miserable painful death & is rotting in hell! The same goes for that step brother, (when its his turn). Its not my business nor is this the right forum but, what about your mom? I guess people like us are stronger than what we thought. I never gave/give myself any credit or a pat on the back, I always put myself down. But after reading some of these wonderful comments I almost feel kinda good. I never have good thoughts about myself, so Thank You everyone. You all don’t know what you did for me, and maybe Mary Price. Lisa Marie sorry for going off subject bc I have complete respect for your work. Funny you never hear from me, then all of a sudden I can’t shut up lol Well its a beautiful sunny day here in sunny south florida, I think I might go to the beach. Time now 11:30am Thanks again everyone <3
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Mary Price, I heard that there are at least 3 of the ones with the hacked nude photos who say the pics are not of them. One is Ariana Grande (she’s only 21) and I forget the other two names and I believe them. I’ll bet Frankie’s family is horrified about his behavior and it’s difficult to blame the family and accuse them of being similar just because they have an obnoxious, obscene son. I don’t want to take her down or her family. Frankie’s behavior belongs to him and he alone should pay for it. Sadly, his family is paying too. CBS should pay but so far, they aren’t assuming any responsibility or taking any action. Bleh to them.
Kudos to you Mary Price and Kelly for being the strong women you are and to talk about rape openly. Yes, women, all over the world and in some religions are still being mutilated, raped and abused. It’s amazing to me though how when brought up in those circumstances, I’ve seen a few of those same women defend it on TV. I don’t know maybe it’s stockholm syndrome or the fact that they have lived in the stone age so long, they don’t know or haven’t seen life as being different.
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Sexual assault is not a laughing matter and nothing to joke about. It is disgusting that CBS has not addressed this issue. We are not the only people outraged by this. Not speaking up, laughing about it and ignoring it are also offensive.
Ralph, you expressed it so well. To everyone who has had the dreadful encounter of any form of sexual abuse, stand tall and know it is not your fault. What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger.
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hey bbbloggers! threw my back out – need some prayers, pls!
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Macy, so sorry. I’ve done that before and couldn’t sit or stand up straight. Hope you get better soon
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I am so proud of all of you brave women who have told their stories. They prove even more how wrong it is that CBS has remained silent regarding the disgusting comments made by Frankie. I sincerely hope (and pray) that this will be dealt with by Thursday’s live show. As I mentioned before, Julie Chen is scheduled to be on David Letterman tonight. My questions are first, is she going to show up? And second, will Dave mention what’s going on in the BB house. I think he has the nerve to approach the topic, but will CBS let him?? We shall see!
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Macy, Jeanne and I will be praying for you. I know that is so painful. God bless you dear friend! Take care!
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thx joyce and jo – i cant fully stand upright – its hidious looking
bb house needs to liven-up a bit – zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Thanks for great post LM, I took a vacation from BB for a couple weeks & was shocked to come back to this news.
To Kerry & MaryPrice, I am so terribly sorry for what you’ve had to experience. Hugs to you both!
Now, I may become quite unpopular here for what I want to say but please hear it through first. I never make assumptions or form uninformed opinions without as many facts as possible so I went & watched the aforementioned conversation from 2 different camera views. And while I think it is totally crass & upsetting to watch a group so crudely discuss a sexual act, I didn’t come away feeling that any of them were laughing at an act of rape. I too, know full well what that entails!! The words used were “take both of her virginities” & in many cultures, “taking virginity” refers to a girls’ first intercourse. Derrick deflected the conversation to her father & sex with zingbot & the talk went from there. So what I believe many jumped to presume is laughter at talk of rape, is actually joking about “zingbot sex” . Again, totally inappropriate & upsetting to watch but I want to believe that it wasn’t malicious. I can only hope.
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I’m not comfortable pasting the links to these conversations but if you haven’t watched, just go google video “big brother Frankie rape”. I saw 2 different camera views.
( my apologies) but I want to address 1 other item that bothers me. I think Ariana Grande is a sweet young girl on her way to superstar status. Just because her brother links himself to her, she in no way should be called out for his behavior. It really isn’t fair to her.
I promise to be good now
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Courtney, I don’t care if it is sex with a robot, broom, dildo, or human. It was vile, abusive talk. Although Derrick was the one who turned it into robot sex, that is not what Frankie said or eluded to. What he said was disgusting. There is no defending what he said and acted out. The fact that Derrick joined in the conversation laughing about robot sex and Caleb talking about how bloody it would be just adds to the disgust. NOBODY called Frankie out on his inappropriate, vile, violent words and actions. This whole conversation stemmed from Christine telling Cody not to have sex with Victoria when she’s drunk.
I have experienced the ugliness of these so called jokes. THERE IS NO EXCUSE!
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@Courtney
Really? Taking both her virginities without her consent while drunk
What is not rape about this ?
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Courtney – are you kidding me. Did you not say you watched from two different angles. The disgusting things Frankie said were vile and then to act out the rape. How can you as a woman defend that. If that is acceptable behaviour under any circumstances, this world is not my home.
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I never said anything about non consentual sex! Nor would I. Perhaps I didn’t hear the conversation as clearly as the rest of you, but I never heard the words rape or consent.
I merely stated my opinion about zingbot sex talk. I’ve never met anyone who has laughed at the thought of rape…let alone, on national TV. I’m hoping the conversation was misinterpreted. But I will repeat, I do not condone the behavior or the conversation! I never defended talk of rape. And frankly, the inference is insulting, especially to the victim of rape!
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Courtney — I understand what you’re saying and I know that you’re not defending rape talk. I interpreted Frankie’s words as basically saying that the boys should get Victoria so drunk that she wouldn’t be able to resist. Frankie never used the word “rape” and may not consider that to be rape but I do. That, along with another conversation that Frankie had where he talked about how much he loved rape scenes in movies (it was a conversation with Cody and the specific movie was Showgirls) and the fact that, since this game began, Frankie has been obsessed with getting every woman out of the house, makes me feel that Frankie is, at the very least, a misogynist.
Either way, I think we all agree that it’s not behavior that we want to see rewarded with $50,000.
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every convo at length with FRANK eventually turns into sex and i’m sick of it – he thinks he is being cool – NOT
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http://www.bustle.com/articles/38051-frankie-grandes-jokes-about-raping-victoria-on-big-brother-were-horrific-the-houseguests-reactions-didnt
I just watched this and also read the information with it. They consider it a rape.
Every site I looked on it refers it to being addressed as a rape. I do have a problem with Victoria’s family stating they want an apology from Ariana Grande and from Frankie. I understand them wanting an apology from Frankie but his sister had nothing to do with his disgusting and inappropriate rant. Ariana has no reason to apologize. I can only figure that it is because she is his sister. I think they are saying that because she is famous. In that particular situation, I think they are wrong. From what he said, I would consider it a rape. And Courtney, I understand what you are saying that the word rape was never used. It is the insinuation and the other things he said that make us feel like he definitely referred to the act of taking her virginities as a rape.
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Completely disgusting! There are no acceptable jokes about rape! In our lifetimes six out ten women will be a victim of a sexual assault. There is no higher crime percentage, and because it does not happen to men significantly, money, research, education nor resources are spent fighting against this crime. Those of us who have been a victim, have a vagina, love our sisters, daughters, nieces, girlfriends, or just people in general would have bitch slapped Frankie, then Derrick (he’s a cop), Christine (biologically a girl), Cody, Caleb right in the face. I saved Caleb for last because he at least sobered up towards the end and said this is inappropriate.
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It’s not only what Frankie said, It was his physical gestures that made me sick. We all need CBS to show they don’t condone this behavior.
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A big Amen to that Susan.
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I do understand why the mom is asking for an apology from Ariana grande – I believe there are two reasons 1) is she isn’t going to get one from Frankie immediately because he’s in the house. 2) Ariana has been very vocal about Frankie in the house and how proud she is of him so she has been using social media to promote her brother so turn about is fair play – if she hadn’t been out there tweeting about him I would agree with you – I believe she should apologize – if my brother said anything like that, after I killed him I would apologize, happily
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Got on here today HOPING to see some news that something was done about Frankie ..and yes! I’d forgotten, previous houseguests were evicted for far less things. But for sure Frankie seems to be a production favorite and maybe has some sort of contract with him. – which is just WRONG if they do. Are they really just going to ignore this?? CBS is without question aware by now of the degree to which this has angered viewers. But .. oh well .. let him hang around awhile longer to disgust us even more? that’s apparently the attitude because he’s still there and there doesn’t seem to have even been any kind of a “talking to”. Frankie does what he wants and no one objects. Like continuing to sing. Did anyone else catch the day he told another houseguest “I can but YOU can’t” ?? (entitlement!).
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Again ,, no representative of schools in Africa would want the likes of him representing their cause I’m sure. (to do something supposedly for children and act like THAT while doing it?? on what level is that possibly ok??
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When I actually read the words that were said, I felt literally sick to my stomach. And truthfully, kind of wanted to cry…I can’t explain it. (Thanks hpr & LM) I wish CBS would acknowledge & handle it somehow but I have little faith it that happening. I wanted Aaryn gone last year and we all know how that worked out.
Nicole…I’m putting all my eggs in your basket now. Win this game girl!!
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@Susan G: I can understand what you are saying but Ariana is his sister. I doubt that she would support the comments and gestures that he made in this situation. But I still say, she doesn’t owe anyone an apology. She loves her brother and she supported him being in the House. That does not mean she owes anyone an apology for his horrible and unacceptable comments, gestures, and behaviors. Even if he is in the house, he could be made to give an apology to her and her family. However, personally, I still believe he should be gone.
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Here’s a link to past HG’s expelled from house
http://www.onlinebigbrother.com/big-brother-expelled-house-guests-voluntarily-leave/
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I do wish they would kick his butt to the curb – my point is that I don’t think Victorias mom is saying Frankie’s sister should apologize because she’s famous – I think it’s more like shes been talking and tweeting about him for over 70 days now she has nothing to say – sometimes silence speaks volumes – that’s just my take – she doesn’t have to do anything, but given the shared religion it doesn’t seem inappropriate to ask
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Don’t misunderstand me – I think Frankie is a totally sexual freak who needs to be kicked out ASAP. However, like most of you, I don’t expect to see that happen. Rather than asking his sister to apologize, they should ask that she denounce his behavior regarding their daughter. That I can agree with. They may have the kind of relationship where she won’t bad mouth him publicly. I don’t know. But a brother/sister relationship can be complicated. I would be concerned if she tweeted how awesome his comment was and she wanted to see it happen too. However, I do believe he has been riding her coat tails for a long time. Not just while in the house.
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Here is it is if you missed it, and I agree GO NICOLE!
.2:21: Der/Ch/Cod/Cal/Fr talking about drinking tonight. (Inflammatory misogynist comments inside) – Dolffie
Christine asks them to not make love to Victoria because she will be feisty they will be drunk.
Frankie: I think you should both double team her. I think you should take all of her virginities in one night. All of them!
Cody: Oh no, that’s so foul.
Caleb: We would ruin her. There would be blood everywhere.
Derrick: Her father is watching, literally cringing. I don’t even know what I would do. I would definitely break the computer. I’d break the computer and instantly regret it. I’d be like dammit, why did I just do that?
Laughter ensues.
Frankie: Beer goggles and me in full drag, it would be alright.
Derrick: They have the fcking zingbot glasses on!
Cody: Dude, that is fcking terrible. That is fcking terrible.
Derrick: Zing! (making a thrusting motion with his hips)
Christine: Oh my god!
More laughter.
SICK and inexcusable !
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I do think that Ariana should say something about what her brother said, considering that 1) she’s the only reason that he’s in the house right now and 2) most of her fans are tweens and it would be good for her to make it clear to them this type of talk is never acceptable because I’ve already seen quite a few members of Team Grande on twitter making excuses for Frankie or saying that what he said wasn’t that big a deal because everyone in the house talks about Frankie behind his back. (Add to that, most of Frankie’s fans started out as being Ariana fans.) Ever since this game began, Ariana has been on twitter, asking people to vote Frankie into Team America and telling them not to be mad at Frankie over anything he’s done in the house and also telling everyone how adorable she thinks Zankie is. But now, that Frankie has been caught saying something truly vile, Ariana is suddenly very quiet. I don’t necessarily think that Ariana is the one who should be apologizing, though I do think it would be a classy move on her part to do so. But I do think that, as his biggest promoter, Ariana needs to at least go online and say that, regardless of how much she loves her brother, that his comments were not acceptable or, if that’s not the case, explain how she can possibly think they are acceptable.
If the show is going to humiliate Tim by putting him on national TV and asking him how it feels to watch his wife flirt with Cody, the least they can do is put Ariana on TV and ask her, as a woman, how it feels to hear her older brother making jokes about raping Victoria.
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From your lips, Lisa Marie to God ‘s, Ariana’s, and Les Moonvess’ ears’
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That was spot on Lisa! I respect your opinion so much. You are a good leader here! 🙂
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I agree that she should say something about it but not an apology to her or her family – IMHO. I think the best way would be to interview her as they did Tim. I doubt that she would do it even if they asked but she should. Do I think it will happen? Absolutely not even though it would show some class on the side of production. And I honestly think if it was my brother who I had supported, I would probably be quiet and try to figure out what to say. I would hope it was a big shock to her too. I don’t know her or anything about her really, but I don’t think it would be something to be proud of.
@Sylvie, I agree. Then when Frankie started with his finger motions and noises and kept going. It absolutely disgusted me. He just kept on doing it. How pathetic is Production if they don’t do something?
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Susan G I am with you on your comments to a point! Men also have been assaulted when thy were young, I know that for a fact but Men …many of them will never come forward because they are told to man up & bullshit like that!! 😡 I just think it is a real act of crime! Men & Women Have had to deal with it for the rest of their lives! No matter how old you are it stays with you forever! That’s all I got to say about this subject…..Frankie ,should be put OUT Now… & the rest of them should be told why! & that kind of talk will not be tolerated in this house! Now lets hope that Nicol stays and get some of the (little) boys club OUT! Thanks for letting me vent ……………………
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Bob, I agree on why men don’t talk. I hope that some day in my lifetime, it will be better for everyone.
Ya know, it’s one thing to have sexy talk and tell stories, etc. But when you name an attack of any kind on another player or ANYONE at all, it definitely crosses the line.
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Does Victoria even KNOW what was said about her?? If not, an apology from Frankie regarding this subject would completely SHOCK her!!! Heck, the poor girl didn’t know what a labia was when they were talking a few nights ago!! This could scar her for life….you know, living with these “people” all summer and then hearing about how they wanted to do something so vile!! And there is NOTHING funny about it!! Sad times in the BB HOUSE. I’m appalled!! And that is an UNDERSTATEMENT!!
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Just saving a spot here 😆 ……………………
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@Hpr56,
Yep 🙁
Who knew that it could get this bad after last summer’s debacle.
@LM, I admire your writing and “thinking” skills.
@PRODUCTION, That would be a very appropriate FISH time not when some idiot talks about DR session.
Have to go bye, friends
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On a lighter note…..does anyone remember what season it was when they didn’t have a clock and no way to tell time?? I think that they had to figure out how to make a clock with a potato!!! LOL It may have been season one, but I can’t remember ( old age, brain farts, etc.)
Also, I thought the have-nots were gonna be determined by the energy bracelets!! Did they only do that for one week?? If so, why are they still wearing them? I do think it would be more fair rather than having the HOH decide!! Remember the good old days when they had to compete as a team to see what food they could eat?? Or win a comp to stay off of slop?? And what happened to the Slop Pass?? Too early maybe?? Just curious!! LOL
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@Annie
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1. George’s Potato Clock – Unlike the houseguests of today, this group couldn’t find out the time by peeking at the clock on the microwave oven. It was definitely a surprise when the goofiest houseguest of them all remembered a childhood science course and built a potato clock. That same potato clock was used by the show for one of the first sneaky bits by the producers — Josh Souza was set up to be “The Saboteur” and set the clock back a half-hour every night.
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Jolene and Jeanne….what happened with FB?
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I did not see Caleb at all on BBAD last night?
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“take all her virginity’s” =rape
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i bet some body guards will be hired when this season is over
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@Annie & Sylvie, I so remember those days. It used to be fun to see them compete for everything. The time the group made their own cards to play card games. The actual physical competitions where they had to work for everything.
It’s just frustrating this year.
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i’ve decided to go back to all the old BBC comedies @ Last of the summer wine, as time goes by, Vicar of Dibley, waiting for God…and other’s….james and i have watched them for over ten years, even re-runs and i’ve slacked off but they make me feel good, make me laugh and i guess i belong in a different era and a different place. i’ve had enough bad things in my life to find any enjoyment in the pain of other’s or admitting i belong to the human race as i see it’s less and less loving and good. and you don’t have to be old to love these shows…J’s was watching them at 30…..he’s a lot younger than me yet even when silly or naughty, is never vile. I think it helped him being raised by his great grand parents….sorry if this is boring. (not really sorry)
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@Macy, praying for your back. would help to soak in a hot bath of 2 cups of epsom salts…don’t use any soap or it won’t let the e.s. relax your muscles….do it for about 30min. last time i did it i got dizzy…james=hubby, falls asleep everytime.
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:lol:…………….
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😆
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@bobovnvet – you are right about child sexual abuse the percentages are equal and non reporting among males is awful – it absolutely changes your life forever for some they never recover – that is why I believe cbs should take a hard stance on this
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@bob 😛
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Oh Bob. Thanks for the smile
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thx TNDR – sent my husb to get the e.s. – advil isnt phasing it
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Joyce, whoops! I got you back on my FB. You were deleted in error! 🙂
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tendr, never boring! I’m with you girl! 🙂
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I liked when they competed as teams for things because their team wasn’t always the same as their alliance – those comps were funny and forced people to work beyond an alliance – oh the good old days of two years ago
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Macy, I hope the es helps my friend. Prayer helps too. And I am praying for you. You need to get better for tomorrow and Thursday’s BB. I am hoping something amazing is going to happen! We can dream can’t we?? 🙂
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Joyce – I never meant to unfriend you. I love having you as a friend. I was taking a bunch of stuff and muck that I have to go through everytime I want to catch up with family. God bless you. {{{HUGS}}}
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I couldn’t agree more with everyone regarding Frankie. LM, you put things perfectly. Thank you! There’s not much to add. Frankie is a monster and yes, they should compete for food and who has to be a HN. HOH doing it is totally unfair. As far as Frankie’s sister, she’s probably struck dumb at his comments and he owes his family an apology too. He also owes America an apology. I’ll never forgive the kind of human being he truly is. He showed us his true colors and has from day one and it continues to this day. Sick of him!!
Macy, so sorry about your back. The epson salts should help as tendr mentioned. I’ve had back surgery so I do sympathasize with you. I had prescription motrin in 800 mg tablets and took one every 6 hours for 10 days and that helped clear up the muscle spasm. The surgery was for a herniated disc. Hope you feel better soon. You might check with your doctor before you do too much just to be sure.
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SFand JO thx for the well wishes – i do ok sitting – its the getting up thats tricky
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Well Frankie’s comment has made Yahoo news. He can’t hide now. To bad CBS doesn’t have the balls to do the right thing and take him out.
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Mama Mia !
Mama Mia !
I hope Frankie-stein gets banned for life from
Mama Mia!
This is the chorus of my song, I’m trying to come up with clever verses.
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http://news.yahoo.com/breaking-down-frankie-grande-became-most-hated-big-180400006.html?soc_src=mediacontentsharebuttons
I’m back…just had to share this.
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Kevin – Mama Mia! Mama Mia! I would like to see Frankie! leava!
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Dubs Doll…I saw that story on yahoo this morning but didn’t know how to link it here (I’m far from tech-savvy) so sweet Lisa Marie told me how to do it. Some of the pictures didn’t load but all of the print is there.
KevInDenver… very clever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jeanne…good one! I’ll bet the first of a boatload to come.
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Macy,
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ask your Dr if you can try Indocin. You need a prescription. It is a NSAID that works for me when I have that pain. It comes in 25 or 50 mg. You start with the lowest dose needed to relieve your pain. Sometimes 25 mg every 8 hours does the trick but sometimes I’ve taken 50 mg every 6 hours or 75 mg every 8 hours. You take it until you can manage your pain with Tylenol or Advil. It is not narcotic not addictive
Indocin has been amazing for me.
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Mama Mia!
Mama Mia!
Frankie boy,
Don’t wanta see ya!!
Anymora!!
How’s that?? 🙂
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@macy, make sure there’s no soap or shampoo in the same water and also, get on D3…that supplement has done wonders for my husband’s arthritis. i take it also…5,000 units daily. every morning, alone…not with other vitamins at the same time. i won’t yak so much about it but read about it if you get the chance…..and as far as meds….i’d think a valium to relax the muscles would help but i’d take them only for a week or less…of course that’s a drs trip…
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btw i won’t go near tylenol….horrible for your liver….that’s why it’s added to scriped pain pills…to keep ppl from wanting to take more but most ppl don’t know this and when it ends up hurting someone or worse it’s usually the tylenol that does the damage. advil can hurt the tummy and colon so eat with it and it does use up nutrients…..guess i’m saying a strong body is harder to hurt. ok i’m shutting up now.
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I did contact CBS regarding Frankie’s vile statements and corresponding actions. It has been very clear since he entered the house that he’s a fame seeking mysoginistic cretin, but suggesting and encouraging sexual assault is not to be tolerated for any reason.
I doubt CBS will evict him, although I would be happier if they did, but I would, at this point, settle for a penalty nomination; either replacing Victoria, the last person to be put on the block, therefore a chance to save Nicole, or during the second phase of Thursday’s double eviction.
Between the horrific rampant racism of last year and the Grande-osity of this year’s sexually vile suggestions I think I have seriously come to the end of my Big Brother run. This is no longer the game we “veterans” used to enjoy and discuss for hours. Strategy posts topping 400 a night have been replaced by disgust at the cast and production. I’ll finish this year, I will probably do as someone previously suggested and contact advertisers since I find these comments far too egregious to go without mention. If BB is back for 17 I probably will not be, and I’m shocked to be at that point.
Whatsoever things are good, whatsoever things are pure… That’s not Big Brother.
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Just watched Julie Chen on David Letterman! Not one word about Frankie’s comments! I guess they know what side their bread is buttered on!! Very disappointing! A lost opportunity for CBS to make some kind of statement. We can only hope that they will do the right thing Thursday night and throw the disgusting Frankie out of the BB house and send him home – not to the Jury house where he could be a threat to the decent people there. I am so frustrated with the whole thing! I want to be sure nothing like this ever happens again in the BB house! CBS needs to make a stand against this travesty or it will give permission to any future guests that anything, no matter how disgusting is allowed in the BB house. Well, I am off to bed. I have a busy day tomorrow! Nite all of you great bloggers! 🙂 <3
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Princess, I so agree with you! I am really hoping that CBS does something to prevent this type of behavior ever being ok in the BB house. It is amazing that you quoted what I just read in my devotions tonight. That would be wonderful if we could think that way. That came from my favorite chapter in Philippians. Chapter 4, verse 8. Thank you. I am really off to bed now! 🙂
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There is now a petition to evict Frankie. (over 1,600 people have signed so far). To sign also, here is the link:
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😕
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Frankie’s actions should cause him to be removed by CBS. His huge ego, strange fake accents, touching and hanging on every man, has become too much to watch. He has no talent and seems to use his sister’s name to advance himself. The male house guest’s seem uncomfortable by all of his flagrant mauling . He seems to think he’s cute, famous and talented. Not even close Frankie! Please dance on out of the door.
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They only need 2000 signatures for the the petition?
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Just signed the Petition to get Skanky-Franky out of the BB house !! Come on BB bloggers, EVERYONE needs to sign it. Hopefully, CBS will pay attention to the petition. Thanks to LM & everyone for their comments.
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Just signed the Petition to get “Skanky-Franky” out of the BB house !! Come on BB bloggers, EVERYONE needs to sign it. Hopefully, CBS will pay attention to the petition. Thanks to LM & everyone for their comments.
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@ EVERYONE – Sorry for the “double-post,” as it was not my intention. When I clicked “Submit,” my post did NOT post, but went to a Yahoo Web-page & said “Page not Found.” So I tried it two more times, & it finally posted. 🙁
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I don’t know is this has anything to do with “rape thing”, but I heard one of the other HGs telling Frankie something like “…When you leave the house your parents will have a bunch of lawyers there and you will be instructed to refer all questions to them…” or words to that effect . I heard this totally out of context while cooking dinner, but it makes me think Frankie had a good talking to by production.
Lest we forget the victim here…Has anyone thought about Victoria’s reaction when she hears about it? I think it would crush her if she knew it was put out there for everyone to know. I would be interested to hear of your ideas on how she should be told of this verbal abuse (and she should as she will hear anyway). Frankie and the others can be made (compelled) to atone for their actions or non-actions as the case may be without telling the whole world. Please keep the victim in mind!!
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Somewhere near the last 10 minutes of BBAD while Frankie & Caleb were playing badminton, Frankie said the following…
“Frankie I am so, so proud of you. This is your lawyer. He’ll be standing next to you throughout all of the press interviews. Thanks Mom. Just remember I am extremely proud of you & try not to speak at all without consulting your lawyer”.
… So something is up. If they did indeed warn him, just shows how money & influence transcend the average man’s rules of the game.
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Thanks for the link. I signed the petition for whatever good it does. I wrote my complaint to CBS yesterday and this today. At least I feel ike I tried. Thanks for the sites. I appreciate it.
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Signed the petition, but they’re not going to pull him from the show.
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I do want to make a comment about the sexually explicit parts of the show. There have been many years where there has been a lot of sexual behavior. If you go all the way back to the youngsters who used to play sex games. I’m not as good as many of you at remembering which show and their names but honestly, that doesn’t bother me personally. I have 25 and 27 year old sons and we laugh at most of it. THIS situation with Frankie is not just sexually motivated. It is vile and it is unacceptable on any level. Rape is an act of violence and not sex. I don’t like Victoria and never have but she does not deserve the demeaning comments and actions of Frankie nor the lack of defense from the rest of the house guests. I honestly think that Victoria will be devastated. What a horrible thing to have said about you.
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Signed petition
And now Franknasty, gets private messages about his lawyers ? They obviously talked to him, but he is still there???
Why can’t they just expel him ?
Why does he get special treatment?
By the way Zach was lucky to be voted out as well as the other “NO BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS”
And the seasons keep getting worst.
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@Courtney – I just finished watching (actually fast forwarding thru most of it) BBAD and I wonder if the higher ups in production had Frankie say what he did so it would calm the viewers down. No admonishment from production to stop talking about DR sessions.
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Our poor blog is taking a beating because of Frankie ruining our entire BB summer fun entertainment. Those of us who have been around since the beginning of this blog know how much fun it used to be. We could be called Vets but as Craig Long said awhile back, that term should only apply to those who have served in the military. So, I will call us Oldies 😀 since we call new bloggers Newbies. 😆
As Princess said above, we used to have “strategy” posts until we’d reach 400 and have a great time doing it. That was because there was real gaming going on in the Bb House. There were alliances and alliances in alliances and a lot going on and we never knew who was going on the block because it was a surprise and they weren’t allowed to tell anyone beforehand. As much as we didn’t like Andy last year, he was playing the game and made it interesting at least. Kinda like ED only we didn’t like him in a different kinda way. 🙂 We used to challenge each other to figure out what would happen next or 5 weeks from now, etc. It was so much fun! Last year was bad enough and CBS certainly hasn’t learned anything. If Frankie has been warned about the possibility of needing an attorney, to me that’s a violation to the viewers of this so called reality show.
OR, those statements were pretty innocuous and could be because he figured out that he just might be in trouble. Whatever, the game has gone so far down hill IMO, that it makes me sick. Victoria should know what he did and his gestures were so obscene, he should have been tossed that very second. She’ll be hurt by it but she’s pretty resilliant IMO, and I doubt it will leave any permanent damage. I’m sure the contract is pretty solid and they can’t sue or take action against other HGs or CBS for any reason whatsoever. The funny thing is, anyone can sue for anything and sometimes they win no matter what the contract said. It’s probably an arbitration contract anyway and the verdict is nearly always in favor of the business.
OK, BB fans, so what is next? Do you think CBS will say anything to us or just put up an even more detailed disclaimer at the beginning of the show. OK, sorry for the long blathering post as Ted would say. Y’all have a great Wednesday! bbl8r
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Starfish: I don’t think CBS is going to acknowledge anything that was said or done by Frankie. We may get “The opinions expressed here are not those of CBS blah blah blah” before tonight’s show but I think that is about it. If they were going to do something, Frankie would have already been removed from the house. To remove him from the house several days after the fact just seems like they didn’t find it threatening in any way. JMHO
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@Starfish, ah yes I remember those days. We had a whole lot of fun. And you never knew how the votes would go. I would almost always be surprised by at least one of the votes. It was interesting how we could come up with so many possible scenarios of what would happen next and who would align with who. There is nothing and nobody to do that with now. They are completely predictable.
I believe Victoria will bounce back but I still think the initial shock will devastate her at the beginning and downright make her mad. I would have a hard time understanding why someone would want that done to me if I was her. It is supposed to be a game. A game of strategy and cunning. It’s supposed to be trying to make it to the end and knock the others out. I just don’t see that at all this year. There isn’t much of a game anymore. I noticed some of the same issues with Survivor but not near as obvious.
I think CBS will just ignore it and hope it goes away.
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Starfish – I do remember how great this blog used to be. It was always exciting to look forward to a summer of BB and especially the blogs. I would love to see Julie as she greets the house guests, say “Frankie will you please go to the DR” Okay HG lets head out to the backyard for the HOH comp. That would make amends for what we faithful viewers have to contend with this season. {{{HUGS}}}
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Hi Friends
Reminiscing about the past of BB and creative games they would come up with.
My favorite part was the unexpected , sometimes one vote off one way or the others and the HGs scrambling to understand who the alliance traitor was.
I believe TMA was a stud idea since it got Zach kicked out and he was there for the money and Frankie took the space of someone ready to play the game.
But that’s just me I am angry at the Victoria situation (while i still think she is not meant to play this game).
I am also angry at CBC , Derrick, Nicole , Cody.
Laughing and in Derrick’s case a rep of the law a little sensitivity would go a long way.
All I can think of now is how is Franknasty going to tell us that he meant something else and his little buddy will probably say they laugh as a strategy
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OK not CBC CBS sorry just mad
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The petition so far
Remove Frankie Grande From Big Brother
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------author: Lizz Erickson
target: CBS- Big Brother 16
signatures: 1,776
1,7762,000
we’ve got 1,776 signatures, help us get to 2,000
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Sylvie – If you look at the video again you will see that it was Christine in the room laughing. Nicole was NOT! in the room. Someone else said that earlier and I wanted to correct it. Go back and look, you will see. Waiting to see if CBS will address this on Thursdays show. {{{HUGS}}}
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OOPS i am so angry
Yes I saw that clearly CRUSTINE for sure
I want Nicole to WIN!
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@Jeanne
What happened to Derrick’s fake glasses?
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@Sylvie, I already signed it. I will try to get some people I know to sign.
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As a military Vet and a fan of BB since season 1 – Vet is cool with me. But this show isn’t anymore. Unfortunately the only real vote any of us have is with our remotes and I am guilty of still watching this show in hopes of someone wising up and getting that – well – **(((( ** of crap frankie out the door.
i hope CBS has the dignity to address what was said and CALL him out on it. its really sad to see how low things have gotten. What upsets me more is that Derek laughed along with and particiapted in this conversation. I had more respect for him then I do for any of the others – but his comments – well let’s just say I no long have respect for him as a player or person.
it’s really sad for all of us 🙁
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Truly disappointed in CBS for allowing comments like that to air. They could have called Frankie into the DR and had a talk with him about this. Either he needs to apologize and go, or my loyal to this show it completely gone. It is unbelievable that something like that would come out of anyone’s mouth on national television, especially since he has a sister who’s coattails he is riding on…
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Up to date now Thank you all for your comments! I got nothing!!!!! …
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Thank you for stating that FRANKIE needs to go. He thinks he is ALL THAT, is a show off and a braggart. He is way over the top and is evil, I am sure of this. I can’t stand him every time he is on. If he wins or is in the top two, then I very well might stop watching this show after all of these years. Why is he even on this show?????! He has bragged that he doesn’t need the money, he is FAMOUS, so why? I can’t stand the little bitch……..pure and simple………he has to go soon!!!!!!!!
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Bob, there’s nothing much to say is there? Sad isn’t it. 🙁
You’re right Terry, the power is in the remote but I too still watch. We keep hoping against hope that something, anything, will happen. Alas, nope.
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I signed the petition to get Frankie out of the house
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As Caleb says one too many times “at the end of the day” I hope production wises up and gives Frankie some sort of punishment….preferably eviction…straight to his mama’s doorsteps.
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to me this is what needs to be done: victoria should be called into the dr…..and allowed to see the whole video……..of what they said, who was there, who laughed and let her talk to someone professional about how this must feel and let her explode…then take each one of the guilty and make them watch it alone….then put victoria in the dr alone with each one of them, starting with frankie to scream and whatever else as long as she doesn’t touch him though in MY world i’d let her beat the crap out of him…she should be allowed to ask each one why they didn’t defend her or walk away at least and the jury house should see the video…..i think this whole thing should effect how the jury votes…………also i think for punishment (yep, i’m not done) the guys should be told for this next voting out…nic cannot be voted out nor any other female. they have to vote out one of the guys and i swear you’d see some action……….after that….then the game can go back to being the so so game it’s been. i KNOW all of this would shake the game up and i’d ask each member except derdick…if they are thinking for themselves or are they being told how to think ?……i want vic to know what happened and i want each member to know we hate them for laughing. like Lisa Marie said…no way could i sit there and listen to that and walking away wouldn’t have been enough. i rarely ever scream but as my husband says…he wants a warning before i do.
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I tried to look up how many signatures were on the petition to evict Aaryn last summer. I am unsure of final total but as of July, CBS ignored 16,000.
http://bigbigbrother.com/big-brother-2013-spoilers-sign-petition-to-remove-houseguests/
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in the beginning we were naive but i really believe the whole game is fixed…..and every year more and more ‘crap’ is allowed. i’m going to make sure i don’t miss the commericals during the show…..see who’s supporting all of this…
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------interesting read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy_and_criticism_of_Big_Brother_(U.S.)
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tendr, you are right on!! I hope someone in the big CBS house is reading all of our comments. If they just slip this quietly under the rug, I am going to lose my ever loving mind!! I think the comments made on this blog alone, should arouse some kind of reaction, don’tcha think??? Please, please, please make sure nothing like this happens in the BB house ever again!! All you have to do to see how serious we all think this is, is to look back at the blogs for the last several days and you can see how outraged we are! Wake up CBS!!
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Well I am sorry everyone….so many Blogs & CBS Is not going to read what we all have to say….that’s the fact jacks…. 😆 anyway, Hi Starfish, my good friend..how ya doing darling ♥ See you all soon got to run……………
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Wow Show time 😳
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The Grandaddy of all reality shows, Survivor has a great show, season after season and the same goes for The Amazing Race, why has this show become such a dud year after year? There’s been only 1 season of Survivor and T.A.R. that I didn’t care for, but this show has turned to a simmering cesspool.
I don’t care who wins since I won’t be watching and I’ll give it a shot next Summer, but if the creeps are let back into the house I’ll be gone from this show for good.
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Bob is right. cbs isn’t reading this. i’ve surfed and you wouldn’t believe how many bb forums there are. the only way to hit them is to stop watching the show, stop buying from those who support cbs and complain to them…in that link i posted up there i noticed yrs ago Lowe’s pulled their commercials. i shop there and will continue. and i seriously doubt anything will be done about any of this so i hope vic’s family sue’s bb somehow…and i like survivor and amazing race so much better anyway….if we’d have more of those shows i’d not even miss bb.
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you may be able to leave a comment in big brother’s facebook though…..who knows
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Off Topic: I like both Survivor and TAR but I’m disappointed that twinnies are going to be on Survivor after being on TAR twice already.
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Was Julie Chen a no show?????
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Did anyone else get sick to their stomach watching Frankie tonight? I couldn’t even look at him without thinking how disgusting he is. It has ruined the show for me! Sad! 🙁
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I try not to actually look at the tv when it’s on….
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Was Julie Chen on the show tonight???????
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Julie is only on the live episode, which is on Thursday. A lot of that is taped too from what I’ve read.
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I find it very strange that BB has not said a word. This is buzzing all over twitter, facebook, messages to CBS and different blogs. Ignoring the viewers is such an insult.
I never noticed that Julie wasn’t on the Wed shows. I’m going to see if I can watch previous wed. episodes.
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Janice – No. that will be Thursday’s show.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 🙂 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Guess I am bEhind times….What are “Twinkies”?
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Twinnies. Lol
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You can express all the opinions you want, but CBS really don’t give a rat’s ass, they thrive on controversy, Why do you think they keep bringing back people we love to hate. as far as I’m concerned Caleb made the most offensive comment about making her bleed everywhere.He will be paying for that when when the show is over. This is Big Brother and some years have more Scumbags than others.
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Joyce, Are you an Alien? Who the hell wouldn’t know what Twinkies are, It’s a snack cake you can buy in a supermarket almost anywhere
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Aggie, that was my kindle….I corrected it in the following comment
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I would still like to know what twinnies are.
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Joyce, Jolee and Jeanne are “twinnies!” 🙂 🙂
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Jolee, thanks. I should have figured that out…I thought I read that Twinnies were on amazing race and Survivor. I will have to go back and read again. Shows you how much I pay attention…lol
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Joyce, I posted this on the other blog, but I am sure they were referring to the twins on The Amazing Race. I was just kidding, because we were often referred to as “the twinnies” or ” the twins!” 🙂 🙂
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Does anyone else catch themselves watching DVR’D shows and not even cracking a smile anymore. Frankie has taken the laughter and fun away from what BigBrother used to be and CBS and Production is letting him and waiting on his every desire and want except for the In-out Burgers! If we all Pray real hard @ 6:00 tonight he will be sitting unfortunately in the Jury House. Too bad they don’t know the whole story. I think they should be able to watch it 24/7 in order to make a decision just as other houseguest that are in the house.it would sure change some outlook.
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Yay… double eviction …this should be a good night.
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Disgusted
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You are sooo right, I can’t stand Frankie and if he wins I just don’t know where I’ll stand with watching BB.
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